I sure am glad the Calvinist came along 500 years ago and explained the gospel, because I'm sure no one was going to heaven in the previous 1,500 years and certainly there were no other martyrs for Christ. How was it that Europe was evangelized again?
It wasn't protestant faith displayed at the memorial, it was faith. It wasn't a protestant display of the gospel, it was a biblical display of the gospel. It was displayed by a Christian unity that included both Catholics and Protestants. If you are too protestant to acknowledge a move of God, perhaps you are too protestant. I think you have backed yourself in to a corner and I would encourage you to consider Fr. Robinson's words. Repent. God has called his church to unity. In order to obey that calling you might need to lay down some of the extra-biblical beliefs you seem to have picked up from this modern American Protestantism.
Firstly, Calvin (and Luther et al for that matter) agreed that there were many good and noble Roman Catholics who practiced a saving faith. People were being saved by Christianity before the Reformation, no Protestant anywhere believes otherwise. The insinuation that Protestants believe people prior to the Reformation were not real Christians is uninformed and untrue.
You are also firmly mistaken if you think the display of faith made during the memorial was not distinctly pan-Protestant in character. Indeed, we can tell it was not Roman inspired because nobody was publicly executed for translating the scriptures into English and there was nobody present collecting indulgences for the forgiveness of sins. Nobody even drank Coke to help burp out demons like they do in the Roman churches of South America.
Awesome, so we agree there have been Catholics who practiced an orthodox faith prior to the Reformation. That is good. But then you turn around and say the fruit of that faith is public execution and indulgences. However did we make such a leap?
My tone was meant to be sarcastic at the same level as Uri's tone was bombastic in touting some kind of exclusivity for Protestants. I grant the worship music was Protestant led. But the move of God was completely ecumenical in the best possible way. We will see what bears lasting fruit, the emotive music, or the work of the spirit in peoples hearts. I'm betting on the later. May we all bear our cross daily as Christ prepares us to follow him.
One of your best articles. I don't want to be anywhere near the large "C" Catholics and Marian theology
I sure am glad the Calvinist came along 500 years ago and explained the gospel, because I'm sure no one was going to heaven in the previous 1,500 years and certainly there were no other martyrs for Christ. How was it that Europe was evangelized again?
It wasn't protestant faith displayed at the memorial, it was faith. It wasn't a protestant display of the gospel, it was a biblical display of the gospel. It was displayed by a Christian unity that included both Catholics and Protestants. If you are too protestant to acknowledge a move of God, perhaps you are too protestant. I think you have backed yourself in to a corner and I would encourage you to consider Fr. Robinson's words. Repent. God has called his church to unity. In order to obey that calling you might need to lay down some of the extra-biblical beliefs you seem to have picked up from this modern American Protestantism.
Firstly, Calvin (and Luther et al for that matter) agreed that there were many good and noble Roman Catholics who practiced a saving faith. People were being saved by Christianity before the Reformation, no Protestant anywhere believes otherwise. The insinuation that Protestants believe people prior to the Reformation were not real Christians is uninformed and untrue.
You are also firmly mistaken if you think the display of faith made during the memorial was not distinctly pan-Protestant in character. Indeed, we can tell it was not Roman inspired because nobody was publicly executed for translating the scriptures into English and there was nobody present collecting indulgences for the forgiveness of sins. Nobody even drank Coke to help burp out demons like they do in the Roman churches of South America.
Awesome, so we agree there have been Catholics who practiced an orthodox faith prior to the Reformation. That is good. But then you turn around and say the fruit of that faith is public execution and indulgences. However did we make such a leap?
My tone was meant to be sarcastic at the same level as Uri's tone was bombastic in touting some kind of exclusivity for Protestants. I grant the worship music was Protestant led. But the move of God was completely ecumenical in the best possible way. We will see what bears lasting fruit, the emotive music, or the work of the spirit in peoples hearts. I'm betting on the later. May we all bear our cross daily as Christ prepares us to follow him.